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Flip the Script: Dumbledore Joins Grindelwald


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In this episode, we discuss what could have happened if Dumbledore joined Grindelwald. Enjoy!

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·      2:00 The Harry Potter story wouldn’t happen. Dumbledore is the person that sets pretty much everything in the books into motion, so without him, there is a fairly low chance that the story would play out like it did or even happen at all. Dumbledore hired all the teachers and is the one who oversees the everyday.

·      6:11 There’s no Voldemort. Dumbledore was the one who went to visit Tom at the orphanage and set him on his path to Hogwarts and then into evil. Even if Tom managed to get to Hogwarts by some other method, Dumbledore was the main factor that pushed Tom at Hogwarts, so without him, Tom can shine as a star student and might not have to be Voldemort at all. 

·      11:22 Hogwarts is not the same. Dumbledore was one of the greatest headmasters Hogwarts had ever seen. He put in place many different rules and ensured that it was a safe and helpful place for students and staff. And though any other headmaster would try to do the same thing, no one could match Dumbledore. And once he and Grindelwald took control of Hogwarts, there might be a descend into dark magic.

·      16:57 Dumbledore and Grindelwald likely have control of the entire world, and they’re probably in a relationship. They fall out because they have a violent split of views, but if that doesn’t happen and they join with each other instead, they would become the most powerful people in the world and wouldn’t hesitate to seize control.

·      21:16 Grindelwald likely has the Elder Wand. Dumbledore and Grindelwald duel in 1945 (making that event the climax of they’re rivalry) and Dumbledore wins, taking control of the Elder Wand and putting Grindelwald away. But if they never become enemies and never have a duel, there is no reason why Grindelwald can keep the Elder Wand.

·      24:28 Together, they are the most powerful wizards in history. If they are both dabbling in evil, there are no morals holding them back. Dumbledore was the most powerful wizard in the world without using dark magic, so to think that he wouldn’t have anything holding them back would mean that his power would know no limits. 

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