In a special switch-up, guest Josh Framke steps into the interviewer's seat as part of a grad school assignment, turning the mic on our usual host, Grace Becker. What follows is a thoughtful, behind-the-scenes conversation about the inner workings of therapy. Grace opens up about what really happens in sessions, how she approaches her clients, and the intentional decisions she makes as a therapist that often go unseen. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like on the other side of the couch, this one’s for you.

Editor: Ben

Intro/Outro music: "Expensive" By Yarin Primak

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