In this episode, we interview Rev. Claudia Aguilar Rubalcava, interim pastor at Park Hill Congregational Church in Denver, Colorado. Claudia shares her story as a Mexican woman serving the church in the United States. She talks about her own work towards anti-racism, and she gives us our all-time favorite analogy for the constant work of racism - it's like flushing the toilet! If you ever get weary about not "achieving" anti-racism, this analogy will help you understand, and you're sure to laugh out loud too!