In Episode 5, “Flying Away,” Toni and Hettie explore the longing many grieving people feel to escape — not necessarily forever, but long enough to catch their breath. From dreams of extended stays abroad to simpler ways of stepping away at home, they talk candidly about what it means to seek change while carrying loss.

This episode is a thoughtful conversation about grief, reinvention, community, and the possibility that sometimes a new view can help us see ourselves a little differently. If you’ve ever wanted to pause, reset, or just imagine life beyond the weight of sorrow for a moment, this one will speak to you.