Hoover's busy playing terrible video games from the early 90s! What does Jerzy do without him?? He has a talk with his buddy and fellow artist CHRIS GIARRUSSO about how he got into Transformers, and how that unfolded in a step by step process. You also get to hear the sad tale of Jerzy's sole 11th birthday gift.  Episode discussion resumes next episode!

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