Episode 15: Addiction to Assignment 

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In Episode 15 of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by missionary and disciple-maker Michael Kenyon (https://www.kenyoncovenant.com/) for a powerful conversation about transformation through calling and the long game of discipleship. 

Growing up in a small town in Northern California, Michael's early life was marked by broken family relationships and a deep drive to prove himself. After pursuing a career as a chef and seemingly achieving everything he set out for, his life took a dramatic turn, leading to homelessness and addiction on the streets of America. 

It was in that lowest place that Jesus met him. What followed was a journey of restoration and surrender that would ultimately lead him across the world to Cambodia. 

Now living in Cambodia with his family, Michael is part of a ministry working with young people coming out of trafficking, poverty, and generational trauma. Through a deeply relational and intentional approach, he is helping raise up leaders by focusing not on quick results but on long-term discipleship that brings lasting transformation. 

At its core, this episode is a compelling reminder that no story is beyond redemption—and that when we follow Jesus faithfully, He can turn survival into a life of service. 

Whether you're involved in ministry, leadership, or simply seeking to understand your calling, this episode will challenge and encourage you. Enjoy. 

🔑 KEY THEMES 

• From brokenness to calling: how God redeems every part of our story 
• The power of discipleship as a long-term, relational investment 
• Why belonging is essential in reaching people with the gospel 
• Addressing trauma, poverty, and purpose through holistic ministry 
• Raising leaders who disciple others for generational impact 
• Trusting God's guidance even when the path doesn't make sense 

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST 

Michael Kenyon is a missionary and disciple-maker based in Cambodia. Originally from the United States, he encountered Jesus after a period of homelessness and addiction, and now dedicates his life to walking alongside young people from vulnerable backgrounds. Through business, mentorship, and community, Michael is passionate about raising leaders who will bring lasting transformation to their communities. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK and now based in Cape Town, he works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

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Ep 14: Called Beyond Borders 

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In Episode 14 of the Follow Forward Podcast, Tim Tucker is joined by Emmanuel Agbovi—an exemplary leader and co-founder of Developing Africa Together (https://www.developingafricatogether.org/) , now based in Cleveland, Ohio. 

In this inspiring conversation, Emmanuel shares his journey from growing up in Lomé, Togo, to building a life in the United States—while remaining deeply committed to serving his home country. His story is a powerful picture of what it means to live with purpose across borders. 

From navigating cultural transitions and staying grounded in faith to responding to the needs he witnessed back home, Emmanuel unpacks how small acts of obedience can lead to extraordinary impact. What began as supporting a few students grew into a movement—building schools in communities and creating opportunities for the next generation in Togo. 

He also shares the remarkable story of how a simple $100 challenge sparked the vision for Developing Africa Together, leading to the construction of multiple schools and ongoing community transformation. 

This episode explores the tension and beauty of living between two worlds, the importance of staying rooted in Christ, and the power of using what you have—right where you are—for God's purposes. 

We pray this conversation will encourage you to step out in faith, steward what God has given you, and live boldly for His calling—wherever He has placed you. 

Enjoy. 

🔑 KEY THEMES 

Living with purpose across borders 

Faith and identity in seasons of transition 

The power of small beginnings and obedience 

Education as a tool for transformation 

Diaspora leadership and giving back 

Kingdom partnership and sustainable impact 

Building communities through faith and action 

Leadership rooted in character and Christ

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST 

Emmanuel Agbovi is a leader, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Developing Africa Together, an initiative focused on expanding access to education and transforming communities in Togo. Based in Cleveland, Ohio, he also serves as an advisory board member for The Message Trust USA and is passionate about leadership development, faith, and global mission. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK and now based in Cape Town, he works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. 

He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by The Message Trust, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to follow Jesus faithfully and lead others with humility, courage, and purpose. 

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In Episode 13 of the Follow Forward Podcast, Tim Tucker is joined by Mahlet (Mahi)—a purpose-driven leader and youth empowerment champion leading The Message Trust Ethiopia Hub in Addis Ababa: https://messageethiopia.org/  

In this powerful conversation, Mahlet shares her journey of encountering Jesus at a young age amid fear and trauma—and how that moment marked the beginning of a life fully devoted to Him. 

Growing up in Ethiopia within an Orthodox Christian context, Mahlet reflects on the difference between religious tradition and a personal relationship with Jesus and how God revealed Himself to her in a real and transformative way. 

From overcoming fear and shame to stepping into leadership roles in church, university fellowships, and now national ministry, her story is one of perseverance, and divine calling. She also speaks about a season of deep doubt—where she questioned everything—only to encounter the overwhelming love of Jesus again in a life-changing way. 

Now leading young people in Ethiopia, Mahlet carries a passion to see her generation rise with purpose, faith, and boldness in sharing the gospel. 

This episode is a compelling reminder that God uses every part of our story—our fears, doubts, and breakthroughs—to shape us for His purpose. 

We pray that this conversation will encourage you to keep your faith, trust His leading, and follow Him wholeheartedly. 

Enjoy.  

🔑 KEY THEMES 

• Encountering Jesus in fear and uncertainty  
• Religion vs relationship with Christ  
• Overcoming shame and stepping into bold faith  
• Leadership development in church and campus ministry  
• Navigating doubt and rediscovering God's love  
• Calling, purpose, and surrender  
• Youth empowerment and mission in Ethiopia  
• Living by faith, not by sight  

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST 

Mahlet (Mahi) is a purpose-driven leader and youth empowerment champion leading The Message Trust Ethiopia Hub in Addis Ababa. She is passionate about equipping young people to live with purpose, grow in faith, and impact their communities for Christ. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK and now based in Cape Town, he works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. 

He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by The Message Trust, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to follow Jesus faithfully and lead others with humility, courage, and purpose. 

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Ep 12: Being A Family on Mission 🔊 Jonathan & Angela Burgess

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In Episode 12 of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by Jonathan and Angela Burgess—husband and wife, parents of five, and co-founders of Transform EDM (https://www.newreleasetoday.com/artistdetail.php?artist_id=5121) —for a rich and wide-ranging conversation about faith, family, and mission. 

Broadcasting from Denver, Colorado, but with roots in South Africa, Jonathan and Angela share how their lives have been shaped by a legacy of mission—and how they are now carrying that forward in a unique and creative way. 

From youth ministry to global music platforms, their journey reflects a deep commitment to staying faithful to the call of God while navigating the realities of marriage, parenting, and leadership. Together, they unpack what it means to live as a family on mission—refusing to compartmentalise faith, and instead integrating it into every part of life. 

At the heart of their ministry is a simple but powerful framework: Jesus, Life, and Worship. Whether through music, discipleship, or advocacy, their focus remains on sharing the gospel, defending the vulnerable, and leading people into authentic encounters with God. 

This episode is an honest exploration of identity, calling, and stewardship—reminding us that influence flows not from platform, but from intimacy with Christ. 

Whether you're leading in ministry, raising a family, or seeking to live out your faith more intentionally, this conversation will encourage you to hold your calling with open hands and follow Jesus faithfully in every season. 

Enjoy. 

🔑 KEY THEMES 

Family on mission vs compartmentalised faith 

Leading from identity, not performance 

Balancing ministry, marriage, and raising children 

Creative approaches to sharing the gospel 

The role of music as a tool for mission 

Advocating for life and justice through faith 

Stewardship and holding calling with open hands 

The importance of local church and community 

👤 ABOUT THE GUESTS 

Jonathan and Angela Burgess are the founders of Transform EDM, a ministry that uses electronic music as a platform to share the gospel, lead worship, and advocate for life. Based in Denver, Colorado, they are passionate about reaching young people, equipping leaders, and living out their calling as a family on mission. Together with their five children, they seek to integrate faith into every part of life—raising up the next generation while staying rooted in Christ. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK and now based in Cape Town, he works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. 

He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by The Message Trust, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to follow Jesus faithfully and lead others with humility, courage, and purpose. 

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Ep 11: Life-on-Life Leadership 

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In this episode of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by Esther Katooko Kabanda, team leader of The Message Trust Uganda (https://messageuganda.ug/), for a powerful and deeply honest conversation about discipleship that's in for the long haul and what it truly means to lead like Jesus. 

Esther's story begins in Uganda, where she was raised in a deeply committed Christian home. But despite this foundation, her journey took an unexpected turn as she wrestled with deep loneliness and inner struggles from a young age—challenges that ultimately became the very place where she encountered God most personally. 

From those formative moments, Esther developed a faith that was not inherited but deeply personal. Her journey through university tested that faith even further, forcing her to confront her dependence on God and rediscover what it means to truly follow Christ. 

Now leading the work of The Message Trust in Uganda, Esther is helping pioneer a discipleship-focused model that prioritises depth over numbers. From small group Bible engagement in schools to mentoring young people in vulnerable communities, her leadership reflects a commitment to seeing individuals known, formed, and empowered. 

At its core, this episode is a call back to the heart of the Great Commission: not just to make converts but to make disciples. 

Whether you're a ministry leader, youth worker, or someone passionate about raising the next generation, this conversation will challenge you to rethink what lasting impact really looks like. 

Enjoy. 

🔑 KEY THEMES 

• The difference between crowd-building and true discipleship 
• How God uses hidden struggles to form authentic faith 
• Why discipleship must be relational, intentional, and Scripture-centered 
• The importance of seeing people as individuals, not numbers 
• Raising leaders through long-term investment and accountability 
• Creating sustainable models for transformation in vulnerable communities 
• Faithfulness in the small, unseen moments of leadership 

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST 

Esther Katooko Kabanda is the Team Leader of The Message Trust Uganda, based in Kampala. She is passionate about discipleship, youth development, and raising Christ-centered leaders through life-on-life mentorship. Esther's leadership is shaped by a deep conviction that true transformation happens through intentional relationships grounded in Scripture. She is currently helping pioneer discipleship initiatives in schools and vulnerable communities, with a vision to see young people equipped spiritually and practically for lasting impact. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK and now based in Cape Town, he works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. 

He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by The Message Trust, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to follow Jesus faithfully and lead others with humility, courage, and purpose. 

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Episode 10: Survival to Service 

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In Episode 10 of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by Jervie Magat for a deeply moving conversation about resilience and the transforming power of God's grace. The podcast was recorded shortly after Typhoon Fung-wong had hit the Philippines in November 2025.  

Jervie's story begins in the Philippines, where he grew up in a large family in the province of Pampanga. After the death of his father and mounting medical bills, his family's life quickly unravelled. Eventually, they lost their home and found themselves living on the streets of Manila, surviving day by day through feeding programmes and the kindness of strangers. 

Everything began to change when Jervie encountered the love of Christ through the work of the Center for Community Transformation (https://cct.org.ph/). What started as a search for food became a life-changing encounter with the gospel. Through a myriad of positive opportunities, Jervie began rebuilding his life step by step. 

In this powerful conversation, Jervie shares how God redeemed seasons of poverty and loss to shape his calling. From catching up on years of missed schooling to becoming a working student and eventually serving in ministry leadership, Jervie's journey is a remarkable testimony that no part of our story is wasted in God's hands. 

Today, Jervie serves through the Kaibigan Ministry, helping support and empower others who are walking the same journey he once did. He also mentors emerging leaders globally through networks such as PEER Servants, encouraging a new generation to lead with humility, authenticity, and faith. 

Whether you're an emerging leader, ministry worker, or someone wondering how God might use your past, this conversation will encourage you to trust Him with every chapter of your story. 

See more about Typhoon Fung-wong here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Fung-wong_(2025)#:~:text=Fung%2Dwong%20made%20landfall%20in,Bicol%20Region%20and%20Northern%20Luzon 

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST 

Jervie Magat is a ministry leader from the Philippines who serves with the Kaibigan Ministry, part of the Center for Community Transformation network. After experiencing homelessness as a child, Jervie encountered Christ through a feeding program that transformed the trajectory of his life. Today he serves in ministry leadership, helping support vulnerable communities and mentoring emerging leaders locally and globally through initiatives connected with PEER Servants. His life is a powerful testimony that God can redeem every broken chapter and use it to bring hope to others. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK and now based in Cape Town, he works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. 

He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by The Message Trust, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to follow Jesus faithfully and lead others with humility, courage, and purpose. 

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Episode 9: Roots & Wings 🌳 Sammy J Hanton 

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In Episode 9 of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by leader, speaker, and evangelist Sammy Jabangwe-Hanton for a deeply personal conversation about identity, leadership, and responding to God's call. 

Born in Zimbabwe and raised in the UK, Sammy shares her journey of growing up between cultures—navigating everything in between. Though she witnessed God's power through her family's faith, her teenage years were marked by a struggle for independence that eventually led her into a downward spiral. 

Her turning point came through the persistent love of her family and friends, who walked alongside her with grace rather than judgement. What began as personal restoration soon became a calling: helping young people discover the freedom, purpose, and joy found in following Jesus. 

In this conversation, Sammy reflects on how her experiences shaped her approach to leadership in a generation searching for authenticity. She speaks candidly about navigating both criticism and praise in public ministry, the importance of mentors and spiritual rhythms, and why leadership today must move from "doing for" people to "doing with" them. 

The episode also explores Sammy's growing sense of mission to return to Zimbabwe—where she believes God is stirring a new generation to rebuild, restore, and bring tangible gospel transformation to communities. 

At its core, this episode is a powerful reminder that leadership begins with followership: keeping your eyes fixed on Jesus and allowing His work in your life to become the foundation for serving others. 

Whether you're an emerging leader, ministry worker, or someone discerning God's direction for your life, this conversation is for you! Enjoy. 

🔑 KEY THEMES 

- How God redeems personal struggles into ministry calling 

- The importance of authentic, relational leadership for a new generation 

- Why mentorship and accountability matter in public ministry 

- Navigating criticism, praise, and platform with humility 

- The role of faith in shaping identity across cultures 

- God's heart for restoration and renewal across Africa 

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST 

Sammy Jabangwe-Hanton is a Zimbabwean-born evangelist, speaker, and creative communicator passionate about sharing the gospel with young people. Raised in the UK, she has been involved in youth outreach, preaching, and creative mission initiatives through The Message Trust movement. Sammy is passionate about authentic leadership, discipleship, and seeing communities transformed through the message of Jesus. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK and now based in Cape Town, he works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by The Message Trust, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to follow Jesus faithfully and lead others with humility, courage, and purpose. 

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Ep 8: Culture & Calling 

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In Episode 8 of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by South African creative, evangelist, and cultural strategist Luxolo Kentane for a wide-ranging conversation about calling, contextual mission, and investing in the next generation. 

Born in the Eastern Cape and raised in a ministry-focused home, Luxolo shares candidly about growing up around crusades and charismatic church culture — while privately wrestling with doubt, dualism, and questions about the relevance of faith. Though immersed in Christian spaces, he describes feeling disconnected from a faith that seemed powerful in church but distant in everyday life. 

His turning point came not through a dramatic altar call, but through consistent friendship. A teenage friend's quiet, embodied faith sparked a sincere surrender in Luxolo's own bedroom — a moment that reshaped his life and ignited a passion to share Jesus in ways his peers could understand. 

From rapping in taxi ranks and printing CDs to reach young people outside church walls, to pioneering digital youth engagement during lockdown, Luxolo unpacks his conviction that the message of the gospel must remain unchanged — even as the methods evolve. He reflects on navigating church skepticism, resisting cynicism, and choosing unity over offense while serving the broader Body of Christ. 

Now serving with Alpha Southern Africa, he speaks about contextualisation, cultural intelligence, and why leadership today requires proximity — not just platform. 

At the heart of this episode is a compelling theme: leadership is followership. Influence must be relational. And the true measure of success is not visibility, but legacy. 

This episode will resonate with emerging leaders, evangelists, creatives, and anyone seeking to integrate faith, culture, and mission with humility and courage. 

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST: 

Luxolo Kentane is a South African evangelist, creative communicator, and cultural strategist passionate about reaching young people with the gospel. Raised in the Eastern Cape, he has spent over 15 years pioneering youth-focused outreach initiatives through music, digital engagement, and church partnership. He currently serves with Alpha Southern Africa, equipping churches to engage culture with clarity and conviction. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST: 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK, he moved to Cape Town in 1998 and works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD: 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by Message Africa, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to serve boldly and lead faithfully in every context. 

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Episode 7: Beyond the Platform – Jabulani Majola  

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In Episode 7 of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by South African artist, storyteller, and community leader Jabulani Majola for a deeply honest conversation about identity, vulnerability, and abiding in Christ in the public eye. 

Adopted as a baby into the family of well-known South African farmer and evangelist Angus Buchan, Jabulani shares the beauty and complexity of growing up with 26 siblings in a Christian home — navigating questions of belonging, cultural identity, and faith. From wrestling with rejection and attention-seeking as a young boy to discovering healing through music, he reflects on how God used storytelling as both sanctuary and formation. 

Originally stepping into ministry as a rapper with The Message, Jabulani unpacks his transition into Zulu folk music — and how embracing his language and heritage deepened both his artistry and his mission. He speaks candidly about vulnerability in the music industry, resisting performance-based Christianity, and learning that character matters more than platform. 

At the heart of this episode is a powerful theme: abiding in Christ. Jabulani explains why consistency off-stage matters more than applause on-stage, how authenticity disarms barriers to the gospel, and why humility — not hype — is the true mark of influence. 

This episode will resonate with creatives, emerging leaders, and anyone longing to live an integrated life where faith and calling are not separated by a stage. 

🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS: 

• Abiding in Christ sustains you in public and private life 
• Vulnerability, when rooted in grace, becomes a tool for gospel impact 
• Growing up in a Christian home still requires a personal response to Jesus 
• Cultural identity can deepen calling rather than compete with it 
• Character off-stage validates your message on-stage 
• Authenticity breaks down barriers to faith 
• Music (and any gift) must serve purpose — not ego 
• Love for people is formed by loving God first 

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST: 

Jabulani Majola is a South African musician, songwriter, and storyteller whose work blends Zulu heritage with Christ-centered conviction. Formerly known for spoken word and rap, he now creates deeply reflective folk music rooted in isiZulu language and culture. Alongside his wife, he serves in community-based ministry in KwaZulu-Natal, investing in young people and living out a life shaped by discipleship and mission. 

Enjoy his music:

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7hGWdecNt4fPrcIEAVf3AF

Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/jabulile-majola/1628855274

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ujabulilemajola

👤 ABOUT THE HOST: 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK, he moved to Cape Town in 1998 and works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD:

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by Message Africa, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to serve boldly and lead faithfully in every context. 

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Episode 6: Saying a Courageous YES | Bec Scales 

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In Episode 6 of the Follow Forward Podcast, host Tim Tucker is joined by Bec Scales — pastor, leader, adoptive mum, and former South African Director of Life Child — for a powerful and deeply personal conversation about obedience, resilience, and the life-changing power of saying a courageous "yes" to God. 

Born in Australia but shaped by 15 years of ministry in Cape Town, Bec shares her journey from a six-year-old giving her heart to Jesus, to stepping out in radical faith to become a youth pastor in a city she had never visited. From navigating early leadership challenges and cultural tension, to serving vulnerable children in township communities, Bec reflects on how God forms leaders through adversity, grief, and surrender. 

In a moving part of the conversation, Bec opens up about adopting her twin daughters, the miracles that marked their journey, and the costly obedience that led her family back to Australia for their citizenship process. Through it all, her message is clear: the greatest adventure of faith begins when we choose obedience over comfort. 

This episode explores what it means to stay at your post when it's hard, to trust God when prayers aren't answered as expected, and to lead boldly in a world that desperately needs courageous believers. 

This conversation will especially resonate with emerging leaders sensing God's call into the unknown, those wrestling with disappointment or delay, and anyone longing to live a faith-filled life without regret. 

🔗 For more information about the podcast as a whole: 

👉 https://grabatowel.site/2026/01/12/follow-forward-podcast-launch/ 

🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS: 

• Courage begins with hearing God clearly 
• Obedience often requires stepping into the unknown 
• Testing seasons refine leadership character 
• God's goodness is not dependent on outcomes 
• Staying at your post builds resilience and depth 
• The most vulnerable deserve our boldest advocacy 
• Saying "yes" to God opens doors you could never plan 
• If God orders it, He pays for it 

👤 ABOUT THE GUEST: 

Bec Scales is a pastor and leader with over 15 years of ministry experience in South Africa. Formerly the South African Director of Life Child, she has worked extensively with orphaned and vulnerable children across Southern Africa. Passionate about courageous obedience and advocacy for the voiceless, Bec now resides in Brisbane, Australia, where she continues to follow God's leading alongside her twin daughters. 

👤 ABOUT THE HOST: 

Tim Tucker is an author, theologian, and leadership mentor with a PhD in Theology. Originally from the UK, he moved to Cape Town in 1998 and works with The Message Trust across Africa and beyond. He is the author of Grab a Towel, Grief and Grace, and Finding Life After Death, and hosts the Follow Forward Podcast. 

🎙️ ABOUT FOLLOW FORWARD: 

Follow Forward is a Christ-centred leadership podcast featuring real stories and global voices. Hosted by Tim Tucker and produced by Message Africa, the podcast exists to inspire emerging leaders to serve boldly and lead faithfully in every context. 

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