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This episode features Trey Herweck, pastor of Refuge Church in St. Charles, MO and I together and in person talking about local following, local discipleship, local transformation. Along the way we talk about Lent, the Pope, the Olympic Hockey teams, John Piper, and a bunch of other things.

Here is the dispatch from The Embassy that we are talking about -

Read the whole piece and comment on this podcast!

One more thing, Trey and I mentioned that we will be doing a live podcast event at Refuge Church in St. Charles, MO on Sunday, April 26. It will be in the evening, we’ll nail the time down soon. Hope to see you there!

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