Tori and Mabelle talk with Cygnet Theatre’s Associate Artistic Director, accomplished theatre-maker and all-around beautiful human being, Robby Lutfy. Robby shares his approach to reading plays through multiple judgement-free reads using his *vomit writing* free-writes to lift the rocks created by the playwright. Robby discusses wrestling with his own artistic mission statement by taking the theatre to couples counseling; the importance of giving young people agency in the theatre; and for theatres to rise post-pandemic more equitable and inclusive to create bridges of empathy. His writing prompt involves self-reflection to build empathy.