Food may seem simple, but it's a system — one of production, distribution, policy and consumption — that deserves more attention than grabbing something from the store and tossing it in our mouths.

Wande Okunoren-Meadows talks about disrupting the status bro of food, health and wellness through her work as the executive director of the Hand Heart and Soul Project, a nonprofit working toward a future where Clayton County is at the forefront of the food sovereignty movement.

We talk about how everything is tied to land and power, the difference between consumer self-care and real wellness, the bullshit that are mission statements, the importance of local nonprofits, and how a healthy bit of chaos can be essential for anyone trying to disrupt the status bro.

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