Welcome back to For All the Saints podcast from All Saints Episcopal Church in Birmingham, Alabama, as The Rev. Mary Bea Sullivan continues in a conversation with The Rev. Dr. Christopher Hamlin. In today's episode, Mary Bea and Chris reflect on Chris' work with the 1917 HIV Clinic at UAB, his work with author and theologian Howard Thurman, and reflect on the current racial division in our nation, and how we can work together to be the body of Christ in unity.