On this episode we are joined by Kai Sanna she shares on her art and growth so far. We also talk on some religious aspect as John shares how and why he's an atheist.

"For me it did not just make sense... "

The creative shade is about 3 creatives who have known each other since uni and in this podcast they share their journey and experiences in the creative industry. The podcast is about creating a space to discuss the typical lives of creatives and their ups and downs and help advice other young creatives in the same shoes as them.

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"For me it did not just make sense... "

"For me it did not just make sense... "