In this powerful conversation with two-thirds of Here Be Lions (Jordan and Drew), we unpack what it really means to live a life where worship is not confined to a stage but woven into family, ministry, creativity, and everyday obedience.
What happens when you stop separating your work from your worship? When you wake up and ask God, “Do You still like what I’m doing today?” Jordan and Drew share how their ministry began as a family-rooted vision to mark uncharted territory for Jesus, building authentic community and proving we were never meant to do this alone.
We talk about whether you really need to move to Nashville to make it in Christian music, how some sermons are preached without songs to carry them, and how kids ministry has shaped the way they lead worship. They also share practical advice for worship leaders, including why opening your eyes matters, how to lead a room with confidence, and why the stage is not the only place worship happens.
If you are a worship leader, creative, songwriter, church team member, or simply hungry to build a kingdom culture in your everyday life, this conversation will reframe how you see calling, community, and what it truly means to live a life of worship.
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0:00 Intro
01:47 Songwriting Speed Round
08:55 Discussion on Band Name and Ministry
13:45 Family Dynamics in Ministry
18:53 Songwriting and Worship Leading Insights
21:50 Team Roles and Decision Making
30:35 Community and Nashville Experience
42:16 Kids Ministry and Worship Lessons
47:34 Engaging a Room in Worship
52:42 Glory Gather (community)
58:36 Putting You On Segment: Footstool - Mitch Wong
1:00:52 Outro