Kirsten is joined by Natalie Christensen from Yealands Estate in Marlborough (NZ's 6th largest winery) where she is Chief Winemaker. She is a young and colourful woman, named one of the "world's most influential Women in Wine" in 2018. She talks about sustainable winemaking, Yealands' many different wines and wine tiers, her vintages in Spain as well as being a musician and playing in a band when her busy schedule allows her to do so.