Holdinโ€™ Space with Z and Lee

for Tops That Text Back & Sex Ed That Doesnโ€™t Suck


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This week on Holdinโ€™ Space with Z & Lee, Lee steps into his grown era ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ and reflects on all the โœจ lessons learned โœจ from past messes โ€” because if you're not growing, you're just repeating the same situations with different hairstyles. We get real about sex, self-worth, and the sacred act of being with someone who actually cares ๐Ÿ› (shout out to the gentle tops doing the Lordโ€™s work ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿพ).

Z shares some Pride Month reflections ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ โ€” the celebration, the struggle, and the slightly overdone corporate collabs. We dive into coming out stories (some cute, some chaotic), explore the gaps in queer sex ed ๐Ÿ“š, and answer a very honest listener letter about how to prep for sex (aka Bottoming 101 ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿšฟ). No shame here, just truths, tea, and a few tips your PE teacher definitely skipped.

Whether youโ€™re finding yourself, finding your position, or finding the confidence to speak up in bed โ€” we got you. This episode is tender, shady, and everything in between ๐Ÿ’…๐Ÿฝ.


๐Ÿ•ฐ Chapters:
00:00 โ€“ Leeโ€™s growth era begins (again) ๐ŸŒš
02:31 โ€“ Pride Month without the performative glitter ๐ŸŽ‰
05:18 โ€“ In praise of Tops That Care ๐Ÿ’†๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ
07:56 โ€“ Why sexual etiquette is hot ๐Ÿ”ฅ
10:29 โ€“ Global Pride vibes ๐ŸŒ
11:21 โ€“ Coming out: the soft launch vs. the scream ๐Ÿง๐Ÿฝ
21:06 โ€“ Balancing faith and your freaky side ๐Ÿ™ƒ
25:11 โ€“ Is it sin or is it Sunday? โ›ช๏ธ
27:40 โ€“ More coming out gags (literally) ๐Ÿค
31:53 โ€“ First times: the expectation vs. the chaos ๐ŸŽฌ
43:05 โ€“ Bottoming 101: Prep, patience & poppers ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ‘



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Holdinโ€™ Space with Z and LeeBy Hosted by Zach Stoner and Lee Gray