In this episode, we sit down with author and historian Forest Issac Jones to discuss his new book Good Trouble: The Selma, Alabama and Derry, Northern Ireland Connection 1963–1972. This powerful work uncovers the striking parallels between two seemingly distant civil rights struggles—across the American South and the streets of Northern Ireland.

Forest walks us through the political, cultural, and spiritual ties that united these movements, from shared strategies of nonviolence to government crackdowns and the enduring power of grassroots resistance.