In this thought provoking episode, Trevor and Dave discuss why to practice forgiveness is to practice the art of being human. We explore why, in order to forgive others we may actually need to learn to forgive ourselves first. There is discussion on why forgiving those who have wronged us is important in our own recovery from damaging or difficult situations.

And, of course, we explore how Nelson Mandela modelled forgiveness in the way he forgave his oppressors once he was released from prison. We discover how the ending of apartheid was rooted in acts of forgiveness.

If you want to get better at life and maybe lose some of the baggage we all carry around with us, then please listen in.