T.J. O’Hara is joined by Brian Baird, former U.S. Representative and co-founder of Washington Independents (http://www.waindependents.org/). The two discuss the partisanship and dysfunction in the legislatures and congress, the Centrist Project and their approach, as well as Baird and former GOP Chair Chris Vance’s organization Washington Independents’ core principles and goals.

“There was a time when you could work across the aisle with reasonable people on boths sides and get things done. And that has gotten harder and harder and harder to do, right now.” Brian Baird, Washington Independents co-founder

The Honorable Brian Baird, Ph.D. served six terms, 12 years, in the United States House of Representatives, representing Washington State’s 3rd Congressional District. Prior to serving in Congress, Baird chaired the Department of Psychology at Pacific Lutheran University and for more than two decades practiced clinically specializing in neuropsychology. Baird is also the founder and president of 4Pir2 Communication, a consulting firm focusing on public policy and science communication.