Olivia and Raven discuss fragility as a defense, linking personhood to ideas, male fragility, and embracing vulnerability.

Note: There’s low quality audio on Raven’s end until 01:16.

Discussion Summary:

0:33: We’re talking about fragility as a defense, equating ideas with identity, and resistance to consciously adjusting one’s understanding when presented with new information.

04:59: Ideas and standards change over time, and a digression about different areas of the world using different calendars.

07:19: Linking fear of change to hating being wrong, pride paired with intelligence and knowledge, and people feeling attacked when someone points out that they’re wrong.

11:04: Male fragility, male entitlement, the one-dimensional view of what it means to be a man, and failing to recognize strengths in women.

14:05: Expanding upon what it means to provide and protect as a partner, men feeling emasculated because women’s roles have expanded, and sharing roles and responsibilities doesn’t lessen your self-worth.

20:37: emotional fragility in men, the one-dimensional view of vulnerable, and emotional vulnerability as a strength.

26:18: The tough guy persona as a form of male fragility, certain ways of being emotional are viewed positively when expressed by men,

30:59: Black beauty highlight: Kimberly Bryant.

31:46: Outro.

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Music credits: Opening: Goestories - Noir Et Blanc Vie

Black Beauty Highlight background music: "Bass Walker" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Closing: First Class - DJ Williams