In this raw, wide-ranging conversation, Darin sits down with Frank Zummo, award-winning drummer for Sum 41, founding member of Street Drum Corps, and current touring drummer for Electric Callboy, to explore what it really takes to sustain creativity, health, and purpose inside the extreme demands of the music industry.

From high-pressure fill-in moments and massive tours to mental health, fatherhood, fear, discipline, and recovery, this episode is a masterclass in resilience. Frank opens up about grief, identity, panic, persistence, and how true success comes from staying available when opportunity shows up.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

00:00:03 – Welcome to SuperLife and the mission of sovereignty
00:00:32 – Sponsor: TheraSage and natural healing technologies
00:02:10 – Introducing Frank Zummo
00:02:40 – Life as a professional touring drummer
00:02:56 – Learning a full Electric Callboy set in under a day
00:03:21 – Creativity, technology, and focus
00:04:07 – Frank’s respect for Darin’s work and health advocacy
00:06:01 – XPT, breathwork, and lifestyle changes
00:07:05 – Heavy metals, pyrotechnics, and detox protocols
00:08:27 – Sauna, ice baths, and recovery on tour
00:10:49 – Down-regulating after high-adrenaline performances
00:12:10 – Warming up smarter, not harder
00:12:53 – Nutrition, protein shakes, and avoiding tour junk food
00:13:52 – Discipline, planning, and long-term consistency
00:15:10 – Frank’s relationship with his father and grief
00:16:35 – Learning from trauma instead of repeating it
00:18:30 – Workshops, kids, and mental health conversations
00:19:51 – Writing the book and creative freedom
00:22:25 – Filling in for Tommy Lee and career-defining moments
00:24:07 – Presence, gratitude, and holding onto the good
00:27:13 – Fear, uncertainty, and career transitions
00:28:16 – Breathwork for anxiety and panic
00:29:18 – Staying open when plans collapse
00:30:34 – Electric Callboy and a new chapter
00:31:36 – Family, touring, and being present as a father
00:32:47 – Rethinking fear and emotional programming
00:35:08 – Rational vs irrational fear
00:36:32 – Availability, probability, and opportunity
00:37:29 – Tunnel vision, persistence, and staying the course
00:39:35 – Doing whatever it takes early on
00:41:40 – Building Street Drum Corps from the ground up
00:43:11 – Walking away from success for mental health
00:46:03 – Health, discipline, and longevity in music
00:50:18 – Passion, authenticity, and staying true
00:52:06 – Social media, bullying, and kids today
00:55:00 – Parenting, education, and real-world learning
00:57:06 – Travel, family, and perspective
01:00:14 – Small changes, fatal conveniences, and starting slow
01:01:26 – Closing reflections on persistence and purpose

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