This week, Sports Hub morning show host Fred Toucher joins The Hurley Edition podcast. He answers the age-old question of how in the world he lives despite waking up so early every day (2:30), discusses the origins of the Toucher & Rich show (8:05), and recalls the uncertainty of going through the format flip from a rock station to a sports talk station in 2009 (11:18).

Known to hold the occasional antagonistic interview, Fred talks about that quality (19:53) before discussing how frustrating it can be to spend time on Twitter (29:30). Then he talks about which famous people have gotten angry at him over the years (35:23). He also discusses how he navigates a talk show during the weirdest era in American politics (39:10).

Finally, Fred and Mike get into their main topic of the day: the eighth season of New Girl (45:20). The guys go deep on New Girl -- deeper than they knew possible. And then talk a little bit about their mysterious co-worker, Michael Felger (51:58), and Fred shares his vision for his future podcast (54:12).

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