Justine Greening and Damian Hinds talk about the highs and lows of their time in office during immense “political flux”, and their battles to propel education up the agenda when politicians were so easily distracted by Brexit.

Presenter: Freddie Whittaker

Editor and producer: Chris Garrington, Research Podcasts 

Artwork and audiograms: Nicky Philips, Simon Kay, EducationScape

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