Referred to as the “Queen of the Animal Rights Movement” by Rich Roll, PETA (https://www.peta.org/) co-founder and bestselling author Ingrid Newkirk (https://www.ingridnewkirk.com/) joins Kathy on the podcast this week to talk about the 30th anniversary edition of her landmark novel, Free The Animals: The Amazing, True Story of the Animal Liberation Front in North America. In this incredible episode, Kathy and Ingrid will talk about:* How Ingrid responds to criticism about PETA’s more “controversial” protest tactics* Free The Animals unique story as a fictional novel “completely based on fact” from the early days of the animal rights movement* The role of the Animal Liberation Front in PETA’s early days in the 1980s, and the widespread misunderstanding the ALF faced from the government and the media* The Research Modernization Deal (https://www.peta.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PETA-2021-Research-Modernization-Deal.pdf), a fully constructed proposal from PETA to create animal-free testing in the United States* The story of Britches, a monkey who was rescued from horrific lab testing and eventually found a happily ever after with a surrogate mother * The exciting news that animal activist and Oscar-winning actor Joaquin Phoenix acquiring the film rights for the book (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/joaquin-phoenix-vegan-free-the-animals-book-1235135638/)Find Free The Animals anywhere books are sold!* Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Free-Animals-Amazing-Liberation-Anniversary/dp/159056670X/ref=asc_df_159056670X/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=564641513751&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16479471476762451947&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004711&hvtargid=pla-1650674607093&psc=1)* Barnes & Noble (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/free-the-animals-ingrid-newkirk/1136296995)* Bookshop (https://bookshop.org/books/free-the-animals-the-amazing-true-story-of-the-animal-liberation-front-in-north-america-30th-anniversary-edition/9781590566701)To find cruelty-free products and services online, check out PETA’s links here:* Bunny Free App (https://www.peta.org/action/bunny-free-app/)*