Pepa is a Spanish woman who’s presence draws many people. We speak of her life in Bolivia, birthing her son simply with a traditional Midwife and her second home birth of twins. We move into her knowledge and guidance of plant medicine which has been her teacher for over 10 years and unravelling of the holds of our minds and true freedom. Be drawn in by the silent beauty of this conversation. We love the birds who also joined this conversation and you can hear their song as you listen.

Acknowledgments: 

Belle Allen for lovingly producing music under be the soul ocean @ https://soundcloud.com/bethesoulocean (with Lisa Lou, Patricia, Emma and Maya on vocals and instrumentals) 

Maya Maria and Emma Clays - Podcast interview and production [email protected] - openbirth.au. [email protected] ig:_emma_claeys_

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