Brian Keenan, the author of An Evil Cradling, was not broken by years of captivity at the hands of Shi’ite militias in Lebanon. On the contrary, he carved out a private space of the mind, as a hostage. And he fantasized with fellow hostage John McCarthy about traveling one day to Patagonia in southern Chile. In this archival interview, Brian tells George what it meant to be held hostage, and how it felt for the two cellmates to visit the land of their dreams, once they were released.