Two closely watched trials are heading toward a verdict. We discuss the complexities of both cases. Guests: Katharine Q. Seelye, who has been covering a manslaughter case in Taunton, Mass., involving texts between two teenagers; Lili Bernard, one of Bill Cosby’s accusers who has been attending his now-deadlocked trial in Norristown, Pa. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2rFwYIE. For two weeks, we’re offering listeners a free trial of a New York Times digital subscription. Visit nytimes.com/dailytrial to sign up.

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