Jason Schockman is a Lutheran pastor. Mark Tredray is a Lutheran school teacher. Their friendship goes back well before those vocations were given… but once they were given the friendship became all the more poignant and important, for—while they are still just Christian men—they are also Christian men whose vocations come with particular challenges. Part 2 of our conversation deepens the conversation and gives insight not only into Christian friendship generally but to the nuances of church worker friendships; in particular, to the importance of pastoral friendships. Enjoy the second-half of the conversation between these two great friends.

This conversation was recorded 10 June 2022.