We're kicking off a new series called "Friends & Family" with an old friend Ryan DeNeff! And my younger brother joins as co-host for his first ever podcast!

In this series I want to explore the connection people have with music, even if they are not directly participating in it. Usually we have guests on who are part of the "scene" in a tangible, discoverable way. For the next few weeks I am having conversations with people who may not have participated in it, but are connected to it in a meaningful way. I hope you enjoy it!

We talk with Ryan about meeting in graphic arts class in high school, asking him to join my band, the impact of Anthony Green, deciding on photography as his career while still a teen, touring with the EDM scene as a photographer, the ups and downs of touring life, and finding himself back in the emo scene. Plus more!

Ryan's work is on instagram @theryandeneff

We're also there as @NostalgicEmoDads