Alec welcomes Sakari Nahi, CEO of Zure, for a fun and thoughtful discussion that spans 25 years of tech evolution. Sakari shares how a single C# book jump-started his career, why he left a job he didn’t love to found a cloud-native consultancy, and what it’s like building a people-first engineering culture across multiple countries.

The two dig into real AI use cases that actually work today—vector search, customer service automation, field-tech knowledge retrieval—and explore how spec-driven development and tools like GitHub Copilot are transforming the way teams build software. They also get honest about shadow IT, geopolitics affecting cloud decisions, the future of Power Platform, and why AI feels “magical” even without AGI.

Whether you’re a developer, leader, or just AI-curious, this episode is packed with relatable stories and practical perspectives.