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What if the biggest barrier to inclusion isn’t policy—but pride?

In this episode, Justin Jones-Fosu, CEO of Work Meaningful and author of “I Respectfully Disagree,” joins me for a brutally honest, career-shifting conversation on what it really takes to lead inclusively.

We go beyond the checkboxes and get into the messy middle—where unconscious bias meets real-time growth. Justin opens up about a personal moment of bias that still shows up for him and walks us through how he rewrites the story with curiosity, empathy, and humor.

We talk about:
🔹 Why inclusion must go beyond race, gender, and identity
🔹 The leadership habit that’s more effective than the “open door” policy
🔹 How childlike curiosity builds better teams
🔹 The role of therapy in staying grounded under pressure
🔹 What to do after the bias shows up

This episode might just change how you show up—at work and in life.
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