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Timestamps
00:00 – Intro: From boss to real leader
01:00 – Meet Celso Sawaia: Engineer, teacher, UN leader
03:00 – The moment leadership hit hard
06:00 – Dollar-store wallets & real connection
08:00 – Recognition & reward: what the brain needs
10:00 – Switching roles: from CEO to civil servant
13:00 – Bosses are obeyed, leaders are followed
15:00 – What Celso’s students taught him about authority
17:00 – Transformation without panic: Leading people through change
22:00 – How neuroscience explains resistance
24:00 – Resetting the brain: Claire’s Say It Out Loud Rule
26:00 – Final wisdom: servant leadership, empathy, and clarity
27:00 – Celso’s rapid-fire rewire moment
28:00 – Wrap-up & CTA
What You’ll Learn
Mentioned in This Episode
Follow Claire on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairehayek/
Follow Celso on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjsawaia/
🎓 Want to train your brain for resilience and high performance?
Join Claire’s free Mental Fitness Masterclass here:👉 https://go.clairehayek.com/mental-fitness-masterclass
📩 For free resources, upcoming masterclasses, or to join our next live webinar—click here:👉 https://linktr.ee/clairehayek
📢 Subscribe to The NeuroLeadership Edge Podcast for brain-based strategies to lead with clarity, courage, and impact.
The NeuroLeadership Edge Podcast is produced by Claire Hayek. All opinions are those of the host and guests. For more leadership resources, visit www.mspteambuilding.com.
By Claire HayekTimestamps
00:00 – Intro: From boss to real leader
01:00 – Meet Celso Sawaia: Engineer, teacher, UN leader
03:00 – The moment leadership hit hard
06:00 – Dollar-store wallets & real connection
08:00 – Recognition & reward: what the brain needs
10:00 – Switching roles: from CEO to civil servant
13:00 – Bosses are obeyed, leaders are followed
15:00 – What Celso’s students taught him about authority
17:00 – Transformation without panic: Leading people through change
22:00 – How neuroscience explains resistance
24:00 – Resetting the brain: Claire’s Say It Out Loud Rule
26:00 – Final wisdom: servant leadership, empathy, and clarity
27:00 – Celso’s rapid-fire rewire moment
28:00 – Wrap-up & CTA
What You’ll Learn
Mentioned in This Episode
Follow Claire on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairehayek/
Follow Celso on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjsawaia/
🎓 Want to train your brain for resilience and high performance?
Join Claire’s free Mental Fitness Masterclass here:👉 https://go.clairehayek.com/mental-fitness-masterclass
📩 For free resources, upcoming masterclasses, or to join our next live webinar—click here:👉 https://linktr.ee/clairehayek
📢 Subscribe to The NeuroLeadership Edge Podcast for brain-based strategies to lead with clarity, courage, and impact.
The NeuroLeadership Edge Podcast is produced by Claire Hayek. All opinions are those of the host and guests. For more leadership resources, visit www.mspteambuilding.com.