Justin Segal, President of Boxer Property and Co-Founder of Stemmons Enterprise, joins Joe Aamidor and Ben Muwoki live from Realcomm 2025.

We explore how Boxer’s vertically integrated model gives it an edge in scaling smart building tech, why most CRE firms are still outsourcing their outcomes, and what it actually takes to unify operations, data, and ownership. Justin shares his take on energy upgrades, tech fatigue, M&A trends, and the myth of “plug-and-play” solutions.

This one’s about shifting mindset, from managing buildings to building businesses.

Topics include:

• What real vertical integration looks like in CRE
• Why so many tech upgrades fail to stick
• Bridging the gap between capital planning and sustainability
• Lessons from running ops and building software
• Realcomm reflections and industry predictions

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