Former athlete and advertising exec Dr. Justin Baker joins Ian C. Williams to share his journey through burnout, meditation, and a PhD in Human Factors. What starts as a personal healing story evolves into a deeper exploration of why self-awareness alone isn’t enough to create meaningful organizational change.

Justin breaks down the flaws in the “mindfulness industrial complex,” and explains how behavioral science and design thinking can help reimagine work from the outside-in. Together, they explore what it takes to build mindful organizations, why space and intention matter, and how leaders can start making practical, human-centered changes today.

Perfect for listeners in leadership, consulting, education, or personal transformation.