In this episode, Nuki sits down with David Shepherd, an executive coach and former HubSpot leader, to explore what happens when outer success no longer feels like fulfillment.

After a decade helping one of the world’s fastest-growing companies scale to a billion in revenue, David hit burnout — and what followed was a journey inward. He shares how meditation, coaching, and awareness shifted his definition of achievement from performance and profit to presence and purpose.

Together, Nuki and David unpack what it really means to lead — not just in business, but in life — and how self-awareness can turn fear, uncertainty, and exhaustion into fuel for growth.

From the What Makes Us Human podcast — real conversations on consciousness, leadership, and the human journey.