In this episode of The Impactful Conversations Effect, we sit down with Cathie Urushibata, a creative leader who shares how bold decisions, daily rituals, and listening with intention shaped her career. From her leap of faith moving to New York for grad school to the lessons she learned at Shake Shack under the leadership of CEO Randy Garutti, Cathie offers thoughtful insights into what it takes to grow as a leader in creative industries.

We talk about the power of walking to clear your head, why listening is her top leadership habit, and how taking the risk without a backup plan was the pivotal moment that changed everything.

Whether you're a creative stepping into leadership or simply looking for grounded advice on how to lead with empathy, energy, and presence—this one's for you.

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