In this episode of Marketing People Love, I spoke to Dan Gladden of Interact Brands to find out what brands need to be considering with their packaging at retail. From the evolution of Dr. Squatch's packaging to the retail transformation of Grüns, Dan unpacks how brands must go beyond packaging and campaigns to create a holistic, emotive presence. Learn why the mantra "challenge the category, not the consumer" is key to cutting through the noise—and how modular design systems and consumer rituals play a crucial role in long-term success. Whether you're launching, scaling, or reinventing a brand, this episode is packed with golden insights you won't want to miss.