The conversation explores the concept of endings and beginnings, emphasizing that endings are often the start of something new. Discussing the importance of comprehending the journey rather than fixating on end goals, using examples like starting a podcast or obtaining a degree. Chasing end goals without understanding the process can lead to dissatisfaction and a lack of progress. Ruben introduces the idea of the "end in mind" versus the "end in sight," suggesting that a clear understanding of one's mortality and the constant nature of life can motivate meaningful actions. He stresses the need for a plan and a mindful approach to life to avoid falling back into old habits and to truly appreciate the journey.