Imagine waking up one day and realizing that the lifestyle you enjoy, puts food on your table, and keeps a roof over your head didn't agree with your moral beliefs. Would you change things or continue on that same path? Would you be willing to give it all up? During this episode of Conversations with Eric and Stephen, guest Reverend Dr. David A Spencer shares how he gave up a lifestyle that led to his standing on a window ledge ready to end it all and how developing a "Kingdom Mindset" became the guide to his going from GED to PHD and ultimately his mission to help others turn their lives around. If you are someone who is ready to escape a lifestyle that is eating away at your happiness, then get ready this weeks show of Conversations with Eric and Stephen.