Timothy Morton speaks with Joanna about: appreciating different time scales is part of ecological awareness; we are realizing we are part of the planet by despoiling it; acknowledging the fear of mass extinction; the convulsive power of beauty; the interdependence of ecological health and mental health; don’t grow up, grow down; living in an ambiguous, spooky and beautiful world; fakeness, truth, and the forces of oppression; the quivering quality of being alive.

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