In this episode, Arno Michaelis, a former Neo-Nazi and author of My Life After Hate, and Mubin Shaikh, a former jihadist extremist turned counterterrorism expert, join this powerful episode to share their journeys from radicalization to redemption. Now colleagues at Parents 4 Peace, Arno and Mubin work as exit interventionists, helping individuals disengage from extremism and educating communities across North America about the warning signs of radicalization. They reflect on their personal transformations, the beliefs that once fueled their hatred, and the turning points that led them to leave extremist ideologies behind. Together, they draw striking parallels between the radical movements they once belonged to and the polarization growing on today’s college campuses. This episode is a moving exploration of change, accountability, and the urgent need for empathy and dialogue in confronting hate.