In this episode, Jeff and Ryan sit down with fellow MACkite teammate Skip, whose path into wing foiling is anything but ordinary. From the early days of two-line kiteboarding to stepping away from wind sports for Ironman triathlons, Skip brings a unique perspective on coming back to the water later in life—and tackling one of the fastest-growing sports out there.

He shares the ups and downs of learning to wing foil from scratch, what gear helped him progress, how he balanced training with family life, and the tips he wishes he knew before he started. You’ll hear stories about crashing, hooting, and finding joy in the journey—even when you’re knee-deep in the learning curve. Skip also highlights the stoke and camaraderie of riding with a tight-knit local crew and why wing foiling is as much about the people as it is the wind.

Whether you’re brand new to winging or deep in the game, this conversation is packed with relatable moments, laugh-out-loud stories, and hard-earned advice from someone who's lived it.