On the pod, Ben chats with Joe Van Deren, who he met about a year ago while he was walking El Camino de Santiago in Spain. Although Joe is young, he has made a conscious decision to dedicate his life to experiences, learning, and travelling. Joe just finished up his first year as a math teacher in Morocco, and he’s now beginning the next step in his passion story. If you're interested in exploring new places and leaving your comfort zone, you’re going to want to listen to what Joe has to say. As Joe mentions in the pod, you can contact him at [email protected].