Deborah Shaw was an established costume designer in New York City. For 15 years she worked for “Late Night with Conan O’Brien” creating hundreds of costumes for the program. But when the show moved to Los Angeles, she decided to stay in New York and do something completely different. And her second act took her to Rikers Island, one of the most dangerous prisons in America. Starting in 2009, she began working in  "The Big Garden" -- a two-acre plot amid the prison complex -- helping both detainees and prisoners via horticultural therapy. Today she is building a new program for the Fortune Society using gardening to help individuals recently released from the prison system re-enter everyday life. DOWNLOAD EPISODE TRANSCRIPT Special thanks to Sarah McKinney of Encore.org for connecting us with Deborah Shaw.