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In this episode of 'In the Therapy Room' podcast, hosted by Kelly Oliver Dougall, we are joined by guest Heather Ince, a 65-year-old retired nurse and foster carer and former election agent for Liz Panton. Heather shares her experiences working as a nurse and foster care worker, discusses her involvement in women's rights activism, and delves into her views on gender identity and issues related to transgenderism. The conversation touches on the impact of changing language, implications for women's rights, and the challenges faced by children and society regarding gender ideology.

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