This conversation was recorded July 28, 2020 with my friend Victor Bartley, a Dad three times over. This conversation features moments of raw honesty and sincerity that are often left unvoiced and unnamed. Victor talks about the role his own father played in his life, and explores his fatherhood experience thus far through the lens of a word not often associated with fatherhood. See if you can pick up what word that might be. Thank you for listening!

Theme Music
Dreamweaver by Sound Force
From Premium Beat

Show Music
Midnight Run by Abloom
Homecoming by Basketcase
In Your Atmosphere by Nu Alkemi$t
Silver Lining by Brent Wood
From Soundstripe