If you don't know the name go back and watch your footy from the early 2000s!

Once a tough, abrassive openside flanker, Ben had a rugby career many would covet! Playing for teams like the Hurricanes, Leicester Tigers and ofcourse the mighty Southland Stags!

After 3 bad concussioons ended his time between the white lines, Ben unexpectedly found himself on the other side of the game. Coaching.

Now with almost 2 decades under his belt. Ben provides the perfect synopsis to what life really looks like when pivoting from player to coach.

The highs, the lows, the pressure!... Not to mention the 4 kids born in 4 different countries around the globe.

A must listen for any athlete or ex-athlete considering picking up the whistle and cones!

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