America cages 1.9 million people and burns $80 billion a year doing it. Rafael (15 years inside), Jason, and Jennifer walked out and actually stayed out—built businesses, hired the formerly incarcerated, and crushed the odds. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley sit them down and ask the raw questions: what really changes a person behind bars, why most “rehab” is fake, and how mentorship + personal accountability drops recidivism through the floor. Zero preaching, all proof.

Timestamps:

• (00:00) Incarceration Nation – the numbers that should piss you off
• (01:32) Meet Rafael, Jason, Jennifer – real stories, no filters
• (03:36) Jennifer’s glow-up – dropout to valedictorian to boss
• (05:26) Jason rewires his brain after lockup
• (07:53) Ralph (Rafael) beats 15 years and flips the script
• (09:58) Darkest moments inside – what actually breaks people
• (19:23) Mental health in a place built to crush it
• (26:37) Rehab vs. punishment – why we keep choosing wrong
• (38:07) Private prisons chasing profit, not people
• (51:31) Mentorship that actually works
• (52:02) Consistency and owning your mess
• (01:00:10) Reentry barriers nobody talks about
• (01:09:00) Financial literacy + rides = freedom
• (01:15:07) Soft skills > degrees when you’re starting over
• (01:34:03) Final fire – the wisdom you only get from doing the time

Connect:

• Jason Holland – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-holland-8a1504292
• Jennifer Morehouse – https://www.morehousecraftedinteriors.com/
• Jennifer Morehouse – https://www.instagram.com/morehousecraftedinteriors/
• Rafael Quiroz – https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafaelquiroz10/
• Defy Ventures – https://defyventures.org/

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