Ruby Warrington coined the phrase “sober curious” and is now back with a new book, Women Without Kids. In our conversation, we talk about what it means to be sober curious, how curiosity can help us redefine our relationship with alcohol and motherhood, and how to navigate the real feelings that surface when you decide not to have kids at all.

:57 — Meet Ruby Warrington 

1:48 — Thread between Sober Curious and Women Without Kids 

6:33 — Getting to the true essence of how you feel about motherhood

12 — Coining “Sober Curious” 

14 — Staying curious around motherhood 

19 — The power of women changing their mind 

23 — The guilt of choosing your own path 

25 — How to talk to your community about motherhood openly 

34 — Motherhood through the generations 

38 — Human life spans expanding and its impact on motherhood 

42 — Legacy when you choose not to have kids 

45 — Statistics around motherhood