On today's episode, we sit down to hear from former military man and semi-spy, Chris Moede, about his conversion and how his experience shaped him into being a man pursuing priesthood. Chis will also join us for our upcoming four part series on manhood: Son, Brother, Husband, Father. Be sure to stick around.

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First follow Jesus, then follow us. We'll talk to the pope about getting you a plenary indulgence if you do.