Following his stomach to Rochester, NY, Ryan chats with Jenny Johnson, a renowned vegan baker. Jenny is the former dessert chef at Owl House restaurant, owner of Pudgy Girl Bakery and Misfit Donuts, and now is on to her new as a DJ for the WAYO radio station. In this conversation, Jenny talks about learning to maneuver the kitchen with her grandmother, lessons in creativity with her father, her background in photography, and her journey as one of Rochester's top vegan creatives. She talks about the research and development process of creating vegan sweets, working with a limited ingredient palette, and the joy of collaborating with others in her city. This is an episode full of insight into the creative culinary process and the importance of always innovating.

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