Rick talks about his journey, starting with Five Guys, and how he grew his business to include 37 stores, with both Popeyes and Five Guys in his portfolio.

He shares the challenges and strategies of building a successful franchise network, highlighting the importance of conservative business planning and the critical role of cash flow.

Rick emphasizes the need to build a solid team and hire skilled operational partners, especially for those not originally from the restaurant industry. He discusses the delicate balance required in adhering to franchisor systems while maintaining entrepreneurial independence.

The episode also covers Rick's insights on the role of franchisors in supporting their franchisees, encouraging innovation, and navigating the labor market. He reflects on his approach to real estate, the balance between emerging and mature brands, and the nuances of scaling up in the franchising business.

His story is more than just about growing a business; it's about adapting to new challenges, making smart plans, and working hard to succeed in the fast-paced world of franchising. This episode offers straightforward advice and real-life experiences for anyone interested in franchising.